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1. [CSM Discussion] + Story / Removing Local - Eve Gameplay Opinions? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
It's the eternal question of EVE: Do you want things safe or do you want them interesting? Local is the 'safe' thing right now. People are used to it and it provides them with near perfect information. If you remove local, no matter what you re...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.25 04:13:00
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2. Directional Scanner Improvements as a Local Replacement - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Goumindong The thing is, there needs to be a system that contains at least 1. Presence in system or within large area 2. Standings You don't really need anything else, which means you can get rid of local and get rid of ...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.24 19:42:00
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3. The greatest problem EVE/CCP is facing right now... - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: CCP Navigator What we realize when we see this is that people could be having a bad day and posting out of their normal character. You had a bad day at work. You had a fight with your partner and you lash out and say somethi...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.24 17:16:00
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4. [CSM Discussion] + Story / Removing Local - Eve Gameplay Opinions? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Allaria Kriss Edit: Torik: How would this be any different from any other system that would be implemented? People will check for new hostiles as frequently as possible when in hostile territory. Obviously any replaceme...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 20:53:00
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5. [CSM Discussion] + Story / Removing Local - Eve Gameplay Opinions? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Here is my reason for removing local: It is really bad UI implementation. To me at least staring at a list of names, waiting for it to change is not my idea of 'playing the game' and it has an uncanny resemblence to what raiding in WoW is like. T...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 18:55:00
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6. [CSM Discussion] + Story / Removing Local - Eve Gameplay Opinions? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Local as a game mechanic is just awful. However, it has been in the game forever and as such an equilibrium has built up around it. It defines how miners, ratters, pirates, high sec players, low sec players, 0 sec players, solo players, corp play...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 17:43:00
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7. BACON: Never be surprised again (relaunch) - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Torik Tavitas You keep using terms like 'frowned' and 'endorsed' which have no real authority in them. I prefer to refer to 'allowed' and 'disallowed' which present a clear line of what CPP lets...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 17:13:00
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8. BACON: Never be surprised again (relaunch) - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Torik Tavitas This is the phrasing I've been looking for. CPP does not allow 'cheats' in their game but tolerates 'exploits' it can't fix or which serve some purpose to CPP's 'grand design'. So ...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 15:15:00
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9. BACON: Never be surprised again (relaunch) - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Lord Fitz It's not a 'cheat' it's an exploit, ie an unintended use of part of the game. There are dozens of exploits used every day, that do get fixed and aren't rated serious enough to ban people for (infact may even be un...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 14:46:00
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10. How is BACON different from Voice Chat? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Maliber Originally by: Torik Tavitas Why are you attacking me when you say the same thing I did? CPP did not declare this a cheat therefore it is not a cheat. Wishing otherwise is not gonna change CPP's position a...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.23 00:00:00
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11. How is BACON different from Voice Chat? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: NightF0x Will you stop jumping the fence every 2 seconds? CCP didn't declare it a cheat because they have no means to detect it so they must allow it until they have something in place to stop it. How hard is that concept f...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 23:50:00
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12. [CSM Discussion] + Story / Removing Local - Eve Gameplay Opinions? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Wild Rho Originally by: DigitalCommunist I'll delete my longer post, and say my views quite simply. You won't get local chat functions removed without some dumb clause for replacement mechanics. CCP's idea of change...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 23:28:00
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13. How is BACON different from Voice Chat? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Torik Tavitas Actually I simply see what is really there rather then what I want to see. People in this thread has said that those that use Bacon are cheaters and as such CPP should ban them. T...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 23:25:00
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14. How is BACON different from Voice Chat? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Torik Tavitas Yup. I am vindicated. CCP specificly stated that it is not a EULA violation and they will not forbid its use. Therefore any calls for bans for its use is just hot air. As anything...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 21:54:00
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15. BACON: Never be surprised again (relaunch) - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Wei Tago Edited by: Wei Tago on 22/04/2008 19:21:00 Originally by: Ki Anna Can you please estabilsh a definitive policy on this matter? If they can't detect it, they can't punish it. Definitive enough for y...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 19:29:00
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16. [CSM Discussion] + Story / Removing Local - Eve Gameplay Opinions? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Jade Constantine Potentially of course, if somebody is putting a cloaked scout at a gate with and checking long range scan (while also running a BS client elsewhere) then he or she will ...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 19:25:00
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17. How is BACON different from Voice Chat? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An The matter is being resolved. I hope this puts a damper in the "It's CCP approved" crowd. Yup. I am vindicated. CCP specificly stated that it is not a EULA violation and they will not forbid its use. Therefore ...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 18:30:00
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18. BACON: Never be surprised again (relaunch) - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An The GM said it doesn't technically violate the TOS or the EULA, but that it's use is frowned upon. To people who aren't ******** or cheaters, this means that since CCP has no way of enforcing a ban, they can just say t...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 18:26:00
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19. How is BACON different from Voice Chat? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Torik Tavitas They might not have gone out and said that that they want people to use it but they have most certainly not told people not to use. They have not even said that they disaprove of i...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 16:40:00
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20. BACON: Never be surprised again (relaunch) - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Originally by: Sidewayzracer Now i was doing some asking arround and general flaming people for using this program and stumbled upon a few Hydra members and users of BACON. I have a few quotes from them id like to share and i was wondering...
- by Torik Tavitas - at 2008.04.22 14:48:00
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